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Recast - Self-Image, Parenting, & Learning to Love Ourselves As We Are (feat. Hillary McBride)

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In a new intro, Robert admits that he has no idea how to rest and Holly tells us all about her recent travels. Then, we recast our 2018 interview with Hillary McBride about self-image, passing narratives on to our children, and learning to love ourselves as we are.

Other things we mention:
- episode 76 - The Narratives We Believe (& Why They Matter)
- episode 72 - Mentoring, Leading, & Empowering Others
- episode 32 - Trauma, Attachment, & Creating Safety (feat. Aundi Kolber)
The Liturgists episode on Embodiment (we don't actually mention this, but you should check it out.)
- the APA task force on the sexualization of girls

Connect with Hillary on her websiteTwitterInstagram or listen to The Liturgists. Buy Mothers, Daughters, and Body Image: Learning to Love Ourselves as We Are on Amazon. You can also order Hillary's new textbook Embodiment and Eating Disorders: Theory, Research, Prevention and Treatment on Amazon.

- "We know from the empirical evidence that between 85 and 90 percent of women are totally dissatisfied with their appearance, with their body, with their sense of self." (tweet
- "A person is in the minority if they like themselves, if they like their body." (tweet)
- "I've had so much suffering in my experience with being alive and with my body and I want to live my life in such a way that I can shape the story, that I can help people not hurt the way that I've hurt, and that I know that I can turn the pain that I've been through into something beautiful in my own life and into other people's lives." (tweet)
- "Pain doesn't get the final word. Suffering doesn't get the final word. Beauty & growth & thriving does." (tweet)
- "We come from people and we're going towards people. We're part of a collective that's on a journey that extends way beyond the sense of individuality we have." (tweet
- "Sometimes we think about our lives from such an individualistic perspective that we miss the larger story which is that we belong to each other." (tweet)
- "There is something that can move your kids forward, even if you're not perfect." (tweet)
- "It's ok to make mistakes. It's how you respond to those mistakes that makes the difference." (tweet)
- "There is no version of being a parent that is healthy, that helps your kids thrive, that is perfect." (tweet)
- "The overwhelming majority of people, after looking at print media, feel really crappy about their body." (tweet)
- “Having a sense of connection to the divine, to a God who is bigger than us and even bigger than our rules and a God who is loving and compassionate…that can help us feel like we have goodness in us, even when the world around us has told us we don’t.” (tweet)
- “Surrounding yourself with people who love you and support a vision of humanness that is gracious & loving & accepting is important.” (tweet)
- “There is so much more to who you are than your suffering, than your appearance.” (tweet)
- “If you’re suffering, if you’re in pain: that doesn’t make you less lovable.” (tweet)

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Intro/Outro music for this episode is ‘Fall Down’ by Rivers & Robots.